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JennyStokes's avatar

I really hope this happens for Scotland.

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Radio Jammor's avatar

This is where you lost me:

" So let's assume they hold the election as a de facto referendum, with the SNP making it known that a vote for them is to be taken as a vote/mandate for independence, and get just over half the vote and a majority of seats."

Sounds simple, but is far from it. Roughly 1/3 Indy supporters are not SNP, and many of those vote for a unionist party. You're asking them to vote for a different party than they would normally do.

This also needs to be pro-Indy because you won't get solid Scot Green voters voting for the SNP, let alone all the others that are pro-indy.

And are you going by constituency vote, regional vote or total votes?

These complications are why this will not happen. This is why the SNP shied away from it at GE2024, which in turn is also why many stayed at home because they never explained themselves. Many took them to be gutless and not worth voting for at Westminster - even though their policy of getting right of Indyref by lobbying Westminster needs the MPs you're talking about now for 2029.

The SNP made a terrible hash of GE2024 and need to learn that losing so many MPs was more their own fault than down to the desire to get rid of the Tories by voting Labour. In Scotland you don't need to switch from the SNP to do that, so this claim is a smokescreen to cover up that the SNP botched things. GTTO is at best a partial explanation for losing 39 MPs.

The SNP are polling higher on the back of Labour doing what they said they would do and the electorate - not known for being that familiar with the details of manifestos - are now catching on to Labour being... well... red Tories.

The SNP have made a couple of good budget decisions, but they will need to show more steel between now and SP2026 to keep polling on the up. And I don't see them calling this election as a de facto referendum.

They will look for this to springboard them to GE2029 and lobby for the right to have Indyref.

However, within the timeline of this UK Parliament, the newly formed Scottish Liberation Movement will make the case that we a colony and therefore entitled to decolonise - and with that the right of having our own referendum.

The UK will not give up Scotland unless their hand is forced - and this can do that because it will have the UN behind it, to which the UK is a signed-up member.

So I have a similar timeline to yours for Indy, but the SNP's role will essentially be to keep up the political pressure on Westminster. It will be the Salvo/Liberation Scotland initiative that cracks the nut.

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